The thing underneath the best answers was never a business principle.
This episode has no cold open and no scripted introduction. In this episode of The Business & Faith Podcast, John Staub and Travis Hall explain why the show changed its name and what is staying exactly where it was. Travis Hall describes burning out on the build it up and sell it off pattern, and how he started choosing companies by their culture and first principles instead of their exit. John Staub traces his own path from a humanitarian aid project in Macapá, Brazil, through a decade of church work and three campus launches, into selling software to faith-based organizations. Together they reframe authenticity as open-handedness: the willingness to be wrong, and to let a good culture change you. The format, the cadence, and the guest list are not changing. The questions are getting more honest.
Chapters:
00:00 No Cold Open, No Intro
01:23 Why the Name Changed
02:22 The Common Thread in Every Conversation
04:16 You Can’t Get the Real Without the Full
06:07 What to Expect Week to Week
07:49 Burned Out on Build It Up, Sell It Off
09:16 Choosing Culture Over the Goalpost
11:40 Nobody Goes In Planning to Be Changed
14:01 Authenticity as Open-Handedness
15:23 Brazil, Websites, and a Church Job
17:39 Selling Software to Faith-Based Organizations
19:16 What We Hope Leaders Walk Away With
22:08 I See Me, and I’m Not Alone
23:59 Applying to Be a Guest
Links:
John Staub: / john-staub
Travis Hall: / travis-m-hall
Dataliction: https://dataliction.com
Apply to be a guest: https://businessandfaithpodcast.com
Remodel Health (mentioned): https://remodelhealth.com
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